This post is re: “praying” the mind-numbing, spiritually-void, robotic “Catholic rosary” & was inspired by the “rosary advice” by Christine found here (which is the second time that “rosary story” has been posted/seen by me. If the Austrians were spared, I can guarantee it had NOTHING to do with the pagan-rosary practice):
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“But when ye pray, USE **NOT** VAIN REPETITIONS as the HEATHEN do: for they *THINK* that they shall be heard for their MUCH SPEAKING.” — Matthew 6:7
I say this as a former Catholic who was forced to STAND beside our desks with the entire class & recite the entire “rosary” every Friday in RCC school (which took like an hour!) The “rosary” is just another hideous EMPTY ritual from the Judaized Babylonian Whore & has no part in Christianity.
When will Catholics wake up from their delusion? The Lord does NOT want to hear an endless REPETITION of memorized prayers — how utterly BORING it must be for Him to endure such nonsense, if he even listens to it at all! (see His words in above Scripture). Prayer is talking to God in your OWN WORDS from YOUR HEART. Common sense.
How would you like it if your child came home from school everyday & stood in front of you in the kitchen, & instead of communing with you NATURALLY re whatever was going on that day, they repeatedly recited a memorized paragraph written by somebody else? And 200 times in a row at that? Your response would be one of maddening, hair-pulling exasperation, “WHY are you doing that!!? STOP reciting like a robot!! Just TALK to MEeeeee, Pleeeease!” Lol! Just imagine it!
“Praying” the “rosary” is insane mass Catholic brainwashing, plain & simple. It is not intimate, it is not personal, it is not communication, it is not prayer!
Vain repetitions [Archive] – BibleForums Christian Message Board:
Vain repetitions basically refers to chanting. The Greek word for vain repetitions is battologeo.
Batto is an onomatopoeia – meaning a word that has no meaning but is a sound symbolising something. E.g. “The zipper when [sic] zip” or the “fly went buzz.” Zip and buzz are onomatopoeias. Logeo is derived from Logos which means word.
So basically Jesus is asking them not to pray by repeating “batto batto batto batto batto batto etc.” It’s a form of chanting that many Gentile religions still do up till this day. Many forms of glossolalia are also battologeo, which Christ expressly tells us not to do. The Roman Catholic reciting the Lord’s prayer and Hail Mary’s 50 times is another form of battologeo. Vain repetitions.
Rather we’re to pray from our heart, with our own words with meaning and thought and understanding and emotion. Jesus was not using vain repetitions because his soul was in anguish and he prayed to God, not mindlessly repeating words.
“In speaking of this verse, St. Augustine of Hippo wrote, ‘And in reality, every kind of much speaking comes from the Gentiles, who make it their endeavour to EXERCISE THE TONGUE rather than to CLEANSE THE HEART’ (On the Sermon on the Mount 2:3:12).” Ditto for deceived Catholics!
–Source: Outside the Asylum: Matthew 6:7: Vain repetition or babble?
Below, a few Commentaries on Matthew 6 & Prayer:
” ‘Use vain repetitions’ (βατταλογήσητε): A word formed in imitation of the sound, battalogein: properly, to stammer; then to babble or prate, TO REPEAT THE SAME FORMULA MANY TIMES, as the worshippers of Baal and of Diana of Ephesus (1 Kings 18:26; Acts 19:34) and the ROMANISTS with their paternosters and aves” (ie, rosaries). — Vincent’s Word Studies
“Use not vain repetitions – The original word here is supposed to be derived from the name of a Greek poet, who made long and weary verses, declaring by many forms and ENDLESS REPETITIONS THE SAME SENTIMENT. Hence, it means to REPEAT A THING OFTEN; to say the same thing in different words, or to REPEAT THE SAME WORDS, as though God did not hear at first. An example of this we have in 1 Kings 18:26; ‘They called on Baal from morning until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us!’ “ — Barnes’ Notes on the Bible
Or as the robotic Catholics repeat 200 times in a row, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, “HAIL MARY! (Baal’s wife) FULL OF GRACE!” — HEAR US O PAGAN “QUEEN OF HEAVEN”! >> Jeremiah 7:18, & 44:17-19+25 >>
“The rosary meditations are:
“The Crowning of the Blessed Virgin Mary as QUEEN OF HEAVEN and Earth.”
How much proof do Catholics need? An absolutely HIDEOUS EVIL PRACTICE copied from the APOSTATE JEWS in the OT! Coincidence? Not. The RCC IS an OT JEWISH religion of formality & ritual, established by anti-Christ, anti-Pauline Jews 200-300 years AFTER “THE faith was ONCE delivered to the saints” in the FIRST century, NOT the THIRD! (Jude 1:3). The OT Religion was FULFILLED by Christ as the “Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29) & the OT Religion was therefore cast aside by the RISEN Lord 2,000 years ago! Wake up Catholics (& Jews who fall for Catholicism probably due to the very familiar rituals) >> You have all been deceived long enough!
“Historical Note: Roman Catholics borrowed the idea of praying with beads from the pagan religions who were already using them hundreds of years before: In 456 AD, Hindus are thought to have introduced the concept of praying with beads to the world. The earliest reference to a rosary (boberkhas) is in their “Jain Canon” (456 AD). These boberkhas had various numbers of beads 6,9,12,18,36 (any sub-multiple of 108). Islam (610 AD) uses a rosary of 99 beads, one for each of the names of God. Buddhists have 108 prayer beads on the string. The Rosary is of pagan origin and no Christian prior to 1000 AD used beads to pray.”
“FACT: Catholics pray repetitive words with Rosary Beads that were first invented in 1090 AD, by “Peter the Hermit” and made popular by St. Dominic in 1208 AD. Catholics believe that Mary appeared to St. Dominic in 1208 AD, at the church of Prouille and revealed the Rosary Beads to him. From this time, Catholics prayed 15 sets of 10 consecutive “hail Marys” in a row (150 times), in the Rosary. However, in 2003 AD, Pope John Paul added a new set of Mysteries, so now it is 20 sets of 10 “Hail Marys”, (200 times in the Rosary, in total). Catholics will vainly appeal to Psalm 136 that alternates the same phrase 26 times with 26 different blessings God gives us. It is not 26 in a row as with the rosary! This is also a song, not a prayer. Revelation 4:8 has “angels singing” not “men praying” << another common Catholic argument!
Source: Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible!
No joke about that! “Let them be accursed!” (Galatians 1:8-9).
Back to the Commentaries:
“So far is God from being wrought upon by the length or words of our prayers, that the most powerful intercessions are those which are made with groanings that CANNOT BE UTTERED.” (Romans 8:26) — Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary
Re: ” ‘But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions’ — ‘Babble not’ would be a better rendering, both for the form of the word-which in both languages is intended to imitate the sound-and for the sense, which expresses not so much the repetition of the same words as A SENSELESS MULTIPLICATION OF THEM; as appears from what follows.
–‘…as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking’ –This method of heathen devotion is still observed by Hindu and Mohammedan devotees. With the Jews, says Lightfoot, it was a maxim, that ‘Every one who multiplies prayer is heard.’ In the CHURCH OF ROME, not only is it carried to a SHAMELESS EXTENT, but, as Tholuck justly observes, the very prayer which our Lord gave as an ANTIDOTE to vain repetitions is THE MOST ABUSED TO THIS SUPERSTITIOUS END; the NUMBER OF TIMES it is REPEATED counting for so much more merit. Is not this just that characteristic feature of heathen devotion which our Lord here condemns?” — Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
“6:7 Use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do. What is forbidden is not much praying, nor praying in the same words (the Lord did both), but making the NUMBER OF PRAYERS, length of prayers, or TIME SPENT in praying, A POINT OF OBSERVANCE & MERIT. 1Ki 18:26 gives an example of the repetitions of the heathen. Mohammedans and CATHOLICS still hold that there is MERIT in REPEATING certain prayers a SET NUMBER OF TIMES.” — People’s New Testament
HOW SHOULD WE PRAY?
“Be careful [anxious] for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.” — Philippians 4:6.
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Source: Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible!